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Last NOID ID (I think) and Thoughts on Vintage Varieties?

This little violet has been growing in a 2" pot with no id.  Its leaves were fairly distinctive so I thought it would be fairly simple to identify.  There are actually two of them because there was...

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So far, at my house, many of the older ones seem smaller to me than the newer ones. But, not sure if it's how I grow them or what.

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The first star shaped african violet didn't appear until 1953. It was developed by Lyndon Lyon. He's the same man who gave us pink double african violet in 1954! I agree with you about the Bluebird...

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Anabel In general they were smaller. When the really big ones started appearing, they called them 'supremes'. That's why you find that in the names of several old varieties. Then finally the AVSA...

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Cheryl - you have such a great deal of history!  We are so fortunate to have you as a resident historian.Is it possible this is still Fantasy Girl but was not classified as a star flower when it was...

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It also matches the FC2 photo, FWIW. I agree that it seems to be a star. Maybe nobody noticed? It's definitely got that foliage and it's a fantasy so you'd think it would have been identifiable. I...

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Yes...I have seen that. The 1956 date is a typo. You can find the correct date/history of the 'star' shaped flowers on the African Violet Society of Canada website. Anabel...I agree that the real...

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 When I have a chance, I may see if Libbie Glembockie has anything to add since she seems to be the major source of info. Somewhere I saw someone saw something like "when Lyon's and Tinari's ruled the...

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Here is some info from "All About African Violets" by Montague Free. The online edition is 1951 but the original date is 1949. Free was a horticulturist at the Brooklyn Botanic Garden for 31 years. I...

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IIRC, the "Du Pont" varieties were tetraploids similar to the Supreme varieties. Those are big for a somewhat different reason than a regular diploid variety that grows large.

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I am not really up on this, but I was thinking the Du Pont ones were special too. Someone on another forum also brought up colchicine treated ones as being the Supremes but he doesn't mention that. He...

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I am so glad that the "star" introduction date issue was cleared up before I bother Libbie Glembocki at Bluebird Greenhouse. All the photos I found were from BB. It seems that the star came from a...

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Not about size, but I've been noticing that some of my vintage varieties have withstood winter on my cold bottom shelf better than the newer varieties. Tommie Lou in particular - grew very very...

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I've noticed this too. My thinking is that many of them were developed before we started routinely using lights and were a little more tolerant to window conditions. I've had a power outage that...

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